Longevity Wins with Susan Bratton

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Speaker 2: With that, Susan Bratton is an intimacy expert who has transferred millions of relationships through her innovative approach to love and connection. Known as a sexual biohacker, Susan brings her unique blend of scientific knowledge and practical experience to help people discover new depths of intimacy. Her work challenges conventional media portrayals of relationships, showing couples how to achieve greater pleasure and connection, more than they ever thought possible. What sets Susan apart is her courage to tackle intimate topics head on.

Combining detailed anatomical knowledge with scientific driven insights about sexual wellness. Her journey began when she and her husband faced their own relationship crisis while pursuing demanding careers. Their successful transformation led them to create programs helping others overcome similar challenges.

A lifelong entrepreneur, Susan is CEO of two companies. The 20, founded in 2019, is a supplement company specializing in libido support for sexual vitality based on the 80-20 rule, which states that 80% of your results are due to 20% of your efforts. If only you knew what 20% to choose. The 20's blood flow supplement, libido vitamins and sexual energy bars, flow and desire, make the what to choose dilemma a no-brainer. By providing just the right balance of vitamins and botanicals to deliver noticeable results. Susan Bratton joins us to talk about longevity wins. Welcome Susan.

Speaker 2: Well that was a lovely gift you just gave me Richard. You wrote that. Yeah. That's beautiful. Thank you so much. It really pulled all of my little threads together and tied it into a lovely bow. I do hope you'll share that with me.

Speaker 1: I will. I will. It's actually, it's the written, it's the write up for the show, so it'll be on the show page. That's the write up. It took me about 16 hours to hack away at that. It's one of, I'm a terrible writer. I'm a good talker.

Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. That was so beautifully done. I feel very honored and loved. Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1: So let's dive. Well no, I have to back everybody up for people who haven't heard us talk in a while. You and I have known each other for a very, very long time. We've never met in person, but I mean we met when you were doing interviews in Silicon Valley. People don't know that you have that as a background. Yeah.

That you did that and you sold a course at that time. Right. You said this. Masterful interviews. Exactly. Using sticky notes. That's the part that blows my mind is it was so high tech. It was using sticky notes.

Speaker 2: I like sticky notes.

Speaker 1: I know. And how do you use? I still like to brain map with sticky notes. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I just, that's how long we've known each other and been talking on and off down through the years. So we have a certain rapport to begin with. I mean you're really good on the mic.

Anyway, from doing it a thousand hours, just last month practically. And now here we are. Why now starting a longevity newsletter? What was there a tipping point? Or is what was the, I know you well enough to know there was a thing that made you decide to do this because everything you do has some thing and then you start becoming an expert in that. Why a longevity newsletter?

Speaker 2: I had been really talking about, well, it was interesting because I like to speak from stage. I just love a live audience. I love to be able to get Q and A. I just, I love, I love talking and interaction. I love to be in the room with people.

I love to feel the love we can create in unity. And when you are someone teaching people about heart connected, conscious, passionate love making, you are really holding everyone in your heart because it's a subject area where there is a lot of fear that stems from a lack of knowledge. That also comes from societal trauma, cultural shaming, and there's just a lot to it. We just don't get a pleasure based sex education, you know, bedroom communication education.

We just don't get that. But I couldn't get booked on any stages because people are so afraid of the topic that they, I just wouldn't get any bookings to talk about sexuality. So I thought, well, what could I talk about?

Where's, what's my Trojan horse into this conversation? Because once I'm in the room, I can get people to relax enough to actually be able to hold their emotional body in a way to take in the possibility that they've been cheated out of information that could have an incredible impact on their lives, an incredible impact on their lives. And I decided, you know, a friend of mine for a long time has been Dave Asprey, the biohacker. And I came up with this idea of sexual biohacking because ultimately I was writing in my newsletter about three things. If you tear it all down to its basic components, having good intimate connection with yourself and others over your lifetime comes down to knowing three different areas of information. The first is actual skills, like the, how does your anatomy work? How does pleasure work? What's the difference between the male and female body? All of those kinds of things.

The second was communication skills. How do you know what you want? Ask for it. How do you enjoy the sounds of pleasure? All of those kinds of things. And the third was how do you keep your parts in good working order so you can have a lifetime of pleasurable connection and intimacy? And I decided to go with the health side of things as my Trojan horse and decided that I would focus on this notion of sexual biohacking. And when you talk about biohacking, at the same time I was in my mid 50s, now I'm almost in my mid 60s and I was really focused on maintaining my ability to make love, my pleasure and sensation, my health, and I really started focusing on longevity. So sexual biohacking and longevity, Dave will tell you that he started out in the world of longevity, but he ended up just renaming it, rebranding longevity into biohacking because if you talk about longevity, you get people who are old. They're the only ones who come out, 60 plus. But if you talk about biohacking, you can get down as low as 20 and 30 year olds who want to know what that is and how they can have a lifetime of biohacking that helps them become the best person they can be.

And so this notion of sexual biohacking is really about intimate longevity. And I'm reading a book right now from, and I can't remember the name of the author and I literally just got the book yesterday and cracked the cover open. He's the person who coined the term sex span. The idea, and really what I'm reading his book for is to unearth what he meant by sex span. And what I like to talk about with regard to sex span is extending your sex span so that you can have this intimate pleasure your whole life because sex is good for you, but not just intercourse because when we think about sex, we always think, oh, well, that just means intercourse and I can't do that anymore. I don't want to do that anymore.

What have you. But sex, our sexuality is such a vast landscape of just intimate pleasure, oxytocin generation, lowering inflammation, improving vascularization, getting so, you know, releasing endorphins, all of these things that are so good for us, the neurotransmitter cascades of serotonin and dopamine and all the good stuff that comes with pleasurable connection. So I started talking about sex man, and then I just got so big into longevity that my current newsletters, which are about sexuality and about these three, these three pillars of having healthy pleasure your whole life. The newsletters became too long and I thought I got to pull out the longevity stuff and make it a separate section. Because there's so much here that is both extending your sex span, but also just extending your health span.

There are really two sides of the same coin, just like your health and libido are two sides of the same coin, your health span and your sex span are two sides of the same coin. And so I started a new newsletter called longevity wins, because it's an area of interest for me, especially and you know this Richard having long haul COVID and nearly passing from it. In 2020, and making the very slow, slow return back to health and not completely yet. I'm regrowing my knee ligaments, I'm regrowing my hair, fixing my skin, fixing my heart, my lungs, my kidneys, my organs, everything.

I mean, it just really took me down. And so I just started working with things like hyperbaric oxygen and PEMF and red light therapy and ozone and you know the list goes on and on and on supplementation and sunlight and walking and then and then moving and then exercise and then strength training and high intensity interval training and you know it just I crawled my way back from being unable to get out of my bed except to hold the wall to get to the bathroom. All the way back to having the best sex of my life and the energy to keep going well into my 70s, my 80s, my 90s. My plan is to have great sex until I'm in my hundreds.

I'd like to be a sexy centenarian. So I just had to split it off because if there's a if that my my family and I joke and I'll finish off with this my family and I joke that my husband's epitaph and he doesn't even want to be buried he just doesn't even care about a gravestone or any of that stuff. I'm more of a continuous continuity legacy person I come from a long line of people I know and know the stories of. And I always joke that his epitaph would be up for anything which I love about him.

He is so much fun to be married to for going on 34 years now. But my epitaph would be she had a lot to say which is the 1000 episodes of podcasts. And so I just have a lot to say so I have a I have a really good team that produces all my content that I write. So I can write as much as I want and it's asymptotic there is no upper limit to how much I can write about what I want to say I'm very lucky in that way.

And so that was the reason that I pivot I begin this long slow pivot to longevity is that it's just an interest and it's also frankly in in today's world a way that I can Trojan horse my way into people's lives and let them know that there is possibility for intimacy and connection in their older age.

Speaker 1: And I'm not at all surprised. Again because I have known you for a long time and listen to you for a long time. I can't remember which show it was that we came up with I came up with or we agreed upon. Yeah, but libido as a biomarker of health.

Speaker 2: That was you and it was probably three or four episodes ago.

Speaker 1: And so when I saw that you were starting a longevity newsletter. There was no question as to why because everything that you talk about. Leads to longevity. Yeah, that's that's sort of like the side effect not a phrase I'd like to use because I don't even side effects. Actually it was Andrew Wilde that taught me that there's no such thing as side effects. They're just effects. It's all effects stop calling them side effects.

Interesting. And so here you are as a sex expert and yet everything that you're talking about if you took the word sex out. Yeah, not that that's bad or anything. No, but you could be giving be on the speaking tour of competitive athletes. Yeah, it's all the same.

Speaker 1: It's all the same exact. Yeah, yeah, no, I know, but I'm just like it's so when I when I tell people what I'm going to talk to you or they see a show and they're like, you talk to her. It's like, yeah, why? Of course.

Speaker 2: And they just get people black out or something happens in their brains. They have sexual longevity. Those are two words that don't go that don't go together with most people.

And they don't understand that if you if you have a healthy sex life and if you continue to have this, I happen to have a grandfather that when he died in his 80s. Everybody was stunned and slightly appalled. There was a lot of murmuring. Did you know that he was still, you know, his having sex actively?

That's like, oh my God, how you know, and he was just like straight, lace guy. And so that it's, of course, you know, it's like in the blue zones in Greece where the men hike the hills and they think it's people sort of act like, why do they like the hill? Because they're taking their sheep out every day and walking miles up and down hills. And I bet they have great sex lives. Yeah, because they're vigorous. They're active. They're doing everything that you talk about in terms of whether it's breathing or walking or stretching or stopping and pausing and gazing at the beauty of where they are located and all those places. And that's everything that you talk about. So for me, it's not like, oh my God, how did she get to having a longevity newsletter?

Of course you should have a longevity newsletter because it allows the people that are still shy about sex to look at all the things that are going on. And you can just call your information and go because you're, you're a nerd. I am a nerd. You're like a hardcore nerd.

Speaker 2: That's why we love each other. Yeah, because you really, you know, when you dive in, it's full metal jacket and I'm the same. We're the same way. When we want to know something, we really need to know it in a bad way.

Speaker 2: And so, of course, Can I tell you a funny thing about the Sardinian blue zone? Please. That's what you're talking about. You're talking about Sardinia. Yeah. So I have been a wine drinker my whole life. I don't drink to excess in any way, but I inherited a really good nose and palate from my father. And when I was in my early 20s, I had a boyfriend who loved French wine and he got me hooked on wine tasting and realized I had a good palate and he really invested in my education.

So I've been collecting and drinking wine my whole life. And one of my favorite things is to understand everybody's flavor profile who is close to me that I love. And sometimes when I have my big family dinners, because I like to cook for people, you and I both love to cook. When I have my big family dinners, I open three or four bottles knowing that there's eight people, they're going to drink them.

It's a long dinner. And I get to tell people, okay, here's the one I picked for you and here's the one I picked for you and here's the one I picked. And then see what they say. And they're like, oh, yeah, that's my favorite.

I don't know how you know that. I just, I love doing that. And so I have a wine buyer out of Irvine, California, John at NapaCats. And whatever I want to try, he gets it for me. I text him, I'm like, John, can you get your hands on some of that Sardinian wine I heard about?

I heard it. I heard it has like something that's like beyond resveratrol. That's supposed to be even better for you and is apparently one of the reasons why, one of the many reasons why these Sardinians have this long lifespan.

I want to try the wine. And so he's like, sure, see, I'll get it for you. He loves that I call him up and I'm always like, find me this thing, find me that thing.

And he sent me like, I think it was six different bottles. Just as like, all right, try these and tell me what you think. And I was like, oh God, these are awful. They're terrible. I would never choose these wines to drink. Even if they're better for me than the other wines, close enough, they were not so good. So that was my Sardinian longevity, double resveratrol wine longevity experiment. Wow.

Speaker 1: Wow. That's a hard way to get resveratrol. Now we have to pause and I have to ask you to talk about resveratrol for a moment, even though that's not why we're here. But people want to know what is resveratrol and why do we want it?

Speaker 2: All it is is a blue tannin from grapes that helps with vascularization. Like really, it's kind of like eating your blueberries. That's all it is. It's just, you know, it's like the same thing as pine bark or things like that. Peno-pagnosianol is the, you know, branded version of pine bark. It's a tannin, pyrocyanidins, right?

Cyan blue. It's just an antioxidant that helps with your endothelial tissue so that you can have more blood flow. The more I know about blood flow, the more I realize it's kind of like almost, I mean, what, there's other things that are probably equally as important, but blood flow. That's the thing to focus on, man.

Speaker 2: Well, yeah. I mean, it's how all the micronutrients get delivered into the system. Exactly. I mean, it's how every, it's how all the plumbing works. If you have a DEMA, it's still related to blood flow, even though your lymphs might be sluggish. Exactly.

Speaker 2: You know, it's funny too, because today, literally the next thing I'm doing after we record this segment is I'm putting my husband on a VEGF protocol. VEGF is the endothelial tissue growth. The endothelium is the lining of your vascular system. It's kind of one of the outer, there's a glycocalyx, which is on the outside of that, but it's, it's kind of like the smooth muscle tissue that squeezes the blood around your body. It's a, it's a muscly, membraney, many cells thick tissue lining of your blood vessel, you know, your, your entire vascular system. Because you got to squeeze the blood around your, your heart's always pumping, but it's also moving blood around because you don't have enough blood to go everywhere. So it needs to put it where it needs to go, you know, to your brain when you're thinking and your glutes when you're working out and your pelvic bowl when you're making love and getting it all the way down to your heart.

It's moving around to your feet and out to your fingers and up into your brain is very important for, you know, not, not having edema, having good cognitive function. And we just got back from Steamboat Springs, Colorado, which is an absolutely lovely ski town. Man, is it a classic location.

Talk about Americana and they have something called champagne powder, the lightest, fluffiest snow. And one of my goals is to ski into my 80s. That's kind of one of the things that I want to do is ski and scuba dive.

Those are two of my sports that I want to do into my 80s. And so we went to Steamboat Springs and it was very, very cold. It was like minus nine out when we had first tracks in the morning. And my husband got these cute new gloves, but they weren't thick enough. And he got literally he got the beginnings of frostbite on his fingertips. And so I said, OK, this is a we got to repair this and the way we repair and they're still numb.

And I said, OK, we got to get Vege F going Vege. Because when I had COVID and it I had all that vascular retraction from the virus killing off the edges of my body as I was dying, I had to regrow my blood supply. So this is the beautiful thing about our bodies, no matter your age. I feel like you can do reparation. You're always doing some sort of reparation as you age, trying to keep everything really robust and and strong. And it's super important to have the capillaries grow all the way out to the edges all the time.

That's what high intensity interval training is so good for. Because it it when you get pink in the face, it pushes the capillaries to the edges of your body. And then the nerves grow behind the capillaries.

They can't you get nerve retraction and sensation loss when you get vascular retraction, when you damage the the edges of the capillaries. So I'm going to go put him on a vitamin regimen, a supplement regimen for Vege F, because his body is not repairing it as fast as he'd like it to. And we just got home and I thought, all right, I'm going to get him on a little protocol for some Vege F. So if you're listening to the show and you're feeling like you're starting to lose the pinkness in your skin, your skin is starting to get shallow, your getting your rings are getting stuck on your fingers, your ankles and feet are swelling. That would be a very, very good thing for you to focus on is pushing more blood through more, run up a couple of hills, you know, as much as you can get yourself pink in the face. It doesn't take long and make sure that you don't get that capillary, that vascular retraction as you age. Keeps your skin looking young too, which is nice.

Speaker 3: Oh, that's such a rabbit hole we could go down.

Speaker 1: I don't even want to go into the supplement regimen because I have to write it all down. You can ask you can ask Claude AI.

Speaker 1: Thank you. Actually, I would advocate for the thought of looking at something, an herb called Red Root. Oh, Red Root. I don't know about that. Red Root actually helps eliminate vascular issues like broken blood vessels in your thighs, you know, that kind of thing. And it tightens those. It has other benefits. It's specific for hemorrhoids, which is a vascular issue.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, is it? Yeah. That's so interesting. Yeah. Tim and I came down with something recently, some kind of flu. And I had to go to the bathroom many times a day for many days while it kind of ran through me and I got a hemorrhoid.

And I hadn't had one since I'd had Taylor 30 years ago. And I was like, oh, I'm getting delicate. I have to be very careful about that. So it's good to know that Red Root is something to consider. It went away within a couple of days. But these are the things we become more delicate and we have to stay on that stuff. We can't ignore it. So Red Root, good to know.

Speaker 1: It eliminated the broken blood vessels in my calves and thighs from 20 years of sheffing. And plus I stand all day. Yeah, standing. And so I'm just a standing person. And but it eliminated them. It took maybe a year in terms of the long haul because they'd been there for a long time. But slowly they just began to fade away. Interesting.

Speaker 2: I find H-Bot to be very good for that as well. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2: Good Red Root. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Also Vitamin A, fish oil based vitamin A, but that's a separate conversation. Okay. I'm a big fan of, I do around of 100,000 units of fish oil vitamin A for 30 days twice a year. Huh. Okay. Which is a high dose.

Yeah. And the worst thing that ever has ever happened, it's never happened to me, but the worst thing that ever happens is that it can affect your vision. If you have, if you're sensitive to it, it might cause your vision to go slightly darker. But soon as you stop taking it, it goes away. But I've never had that.

Speaker 2: I'm going to check that out too.

Speaker 1: And I do that. And I do that because of the. Of course putting everything in chat, GPT. Right, of course. And the reason that I also do that is because it's good for the skin. It's good for all the derma. So that's why I do 100,000 twice a year for a month.

Speaker 2: 100,000 twice a year.

Speaker 1: Well, I mean 100,000 units a day for 30 days twice a year. Wow. And in particular, because well, this will lead us to this, to this section, we're going to be jumping slightly. I have a term I know I've used with you before, total toxic load. Yeah. And that is our total toxic load becomes more and more, which it just seems to be happening. And particularly with the trend of allowing corporate America to dump whatever they wanted to streams and that seems to be now exacerbated.

Speaker 1: Here we go. Here we go. Rolling back all our protections.

Speaker 1: Right. So that means our, our environment around us is going to become more total toxic load contributed to the total, our total toxic load. So I think anything we can do to support the mucosa, since it's the first line of defense, the breathing, the mouth and the skin and vitamin A does that. I mean, a bunch of stuff does it, but it's one of the to me contributors of let's try and have the body be as strong as possible because a longevity wins. Yeah. Because ultimately it's going to make you live longer and be healthier as you get there because I've known people, my grandmother lived to be 106.

Great. And, you know, she was old enough that she actually came across the United States from Wisconsin to Utah in a wagon. This was not a like travel choice. They came across in a wagon. And she proceeded to be active until she was in her hundreds. And then she was out on the front porch sweeping the snow off the front porch when she was 102 and fell on broker hip. But that didn't stop her. She still got well and managed to, you know, probably because all of her life unintentionally without ever knowing the word organic, she ate organic her whole life because they're on food.

So she was classic old school, you know, coming across in a wagon, living on dirt, but healthy as an ox, just healthy as an ox always. And I think that's, that's harder now. Yeah. I mean, yes, coming across the United States in a wagon, not a casual tour. However, in terms of our total toxic load and exposure, I have to go ahead. No, you go ahead.

Speaker 1: I was going to say, I think that she got a lot of positive osteoblast production from that wagon banging body all the way across the country. That's probably why she could recover. Recover from the hip.

You know, the hip damage. There's a really interesting company called osteo strong that's starting to franchise. They've got one down in San Diego. And I think there might be one coming up here to San Rafael. They're an Italian company and they do these bone density measurements that tell you what your bone density is in a kind of a next generation test.

This is one of the things that I like are lots of data points. And then they have this equipment where you go in two times a week and this particular type of machine, you don't get sweaty. It's not pounding in any way. But how these machines work is that they actually generate osteoblast.

They stimulate osteoblast production, which regrows bone density. And I took a test. I spoke at the health span summit on sexual biohacking in LA a few months ago and they had the test there. And I had, I have some bone density loss worse on one side than another, which is interesting.

And this summer, when I go down to San Diego, which is where I go in the summer, hoping that I'll be able to do that production, do that process, go to that place. And reverse that bone density loss. I mean, we get such good information now that we can keep our bones strong. We don't have to lose that density.

Speaker 1: And do you think that having one of the, I'll say old just because they've been around for so long, the vibration plates that you stand on that shakes you like crazy? Wouldn't that have benefit to that?

Speaker 2: I don't know if the whole body vibration system does osteoblast. I'm not familiar. I'm not sure off the top of my head. I'd have to research it.

Speaker 2: It seems like it would. I've had some bone density measured, but I'm thick. I'm like a Neanderthal.

Speaker 1: Like I say, the 20 years of shipping, the 20 year of shipping. You know, these days, it all looks very, you know, you have people in the kitchen with tweezers and making everything pretty. It's all very calm and collective. I came from the yelling and giant stockpots. Yes, you. Yes, yes, picking up a stockpots that you had no business to picking up because it was just huge and boiling.

Speaker 1: Not dangerous at all. And, you know, so there's a lot of building of strength in me from that. And then also I was a cyclist and for my meditation used to be pumping iron because I liked it.

It got me out of my head because it's such an echo chamber. But anything we can do or just going out and walking, but you have it has to be more walking than just wandering in the forest. You actually need that kind of pounding. Yeah. Kind of action. I've been I've taken up the rebounder again.

Speaker 2: Oh, have you? Good.

Speaker 1: And I like it very much because I can be standing here and 10 minutes after the show, I'm out bouncing. That's not to change. I don't have to go anywhere. I have to do anything.

They put on something dumb on the TV, probably the cooking channel. And bounce for 20 minutes. And I do that several times a day. And I find it's stupendous for lymphatics. Yeah.

I mean, really, that's what it was really popularized for was lymphatic. And but I do find it really, I do like the thing of like, I don't have to put on my jack-o-lan-outfit. I don't have to do anything magical.

I just walk out there and I bounce for 20 minutes and then I come back and stand at the computer more. I love that. Well, I think that's part of and I know that's part of what you talk about. And again, this is in the sexual biohacking realm, but it's really longevity wins.

Speaker 2: Do you know why I named my newsletter that? Yeah, why? Because the tagline is you can't win the war, but you can win a lot of the battles. Oh, nice. So the idea that, you know, that whole idea of we're going to, we're going to take beatings. Things are going to happen. It's part of being alive, especially if you're active and you're doing sports and things like that.

You're going to get, you know, there's going to be pandemics or whatever stuff's going to happen. But it's how you beat that back to get back to as close as where you used to be as possible. And what are the things that you can do to do that instead of giving up? It's fighting against aging, holding the line as much as you can. So you're not going to win every battle. There are going to be things that happen.

You know, you might have some tooth loss or hair loss or bone density loss or what have you as you age. But what can you do to get back, push that line back all the time? And so that's how I came up with longevity wins. It's all about skirmishes.

Speaker 1: It's surviving the war of life.

Speaker 2: So you can't survive the war of life. We're all going to die. It's not about the don't die. I mean, I think Ryan Johnson is a very interesting guy, quite interesting. He's got a lot of money behind him to do a lot of interesting things. But the whole don't die. That's like a little overreaching promising for me. That's like, I don't think so. I think we're going to die.

Speaker 1: I think we're going to die. Yeah, we're going to die. Well, then how do you think about the difference between anti-aging and longevity?

Speaker 2: Simply for me, I think about anti-aging as how we present and how we look and longevity as and I think longevity is like the top of the pyramid. It's the overarching umbrella is longevity. And then underneath that are things like anti-aging and health span. Right.

Longer. Gravity is great, but not if you don't feel good. Being old and sick is terrible. So it's a catch all phrase for the things we're really going for, such as health span, sex span, anti-aging. So for me, anti-aging is more how like, I'll tell you one of the things I'm doing for anti-aging.

I do a lot of anti-aging. I really want to be, I like to be as pretty as I can. It brings me great joy to be beautiful. I try to be really beautiful.

And I mean, I was literally a Barbizon model in the seventies. I've just always wanted to be pretty. And I think that we're all beautiful. And I wish more people and not just women, but people knew how beautiful they are and and love themselves for how they look and enjoy that part of their life because it's pleasurable for me. I like to take pretty pictures and I like to wear beautiful clothes and those kinds of things. I like to keep my body strong.

Like what's beautiful to me is that I'm 160 something pounds, two, three, four, whatever. And it's meat. It's heft. It's like grab these thighs and they are strong. These are solid biceps.

I love the feeling of strength. But it's also how do my teeth look is how does my skin look? Is it youthful looking? I die my hair. It's one of those risky choices that I make because I like being blonde. I just enjoy it. It makes me feel younger.

It keeps me feeling young. And one of the things that I've been doing over the last couple of years is something called a candid aligner system. And they are basically probably everyone's heard of Invisalign. And Invisalign was the 1.0 technology.

Now they have polyacrylix or whatever the plasticky thing is that they make these things out of that work even better. And they move your teeth with these clear little trays that you wear on your teeth. When I saw my father aging especially, I noticed that he had never had orthodontia. And his teeth became more crowded as his bone density diminished and his face caved in and it kind of sagged. And I wanted to keep my teeth really wide.

You know, the smile is the Hollywood smile is a big wide white toothy smile. And that's what pleases me. And I wanted that. And as I was aging, I was noticing that my teeth were starting to my jaw was starting to diminish.

My teeth were starting to cave in. And for a while I tried something called a homeoblock and a pod. And they were extremely disruptive to my nervous system. It was not a good technology. It was one of the things I did that was a fail. A longevity fail, not a longevity win. Bad tech wasn't proven out. You know, when you try things, you're not going to hit every single one. It's good to have some failures.

It's fine. I have been super happy with candid aligners because I've been through, I will have ended up probably around 24 sets, which is about 50 something weeks. And but longer than that, probably 60, 70 weeks. Because sometimes I would leave them in extra time. You're supposed to change these series of aligners every two weeks.

But often I would feel, oh, I'm not ready. It's not, it's not settled into this set yet. I'm going to wait, delay, and then I'll put them in when I feel like they're, they've moved into position.

And then I can go to the next one. And it has slid my teeth over a little to the right side where they were a little off center. It expanded everything out. My smile is bigger. And that's like a facelift from the inside out.

It keeps everything wide and big and high, which keeps your face from dropping and caving in. They cost about $5,000. And what I like about that is that now I have very evenly spaced teeth. And I use a toothbrush and an oral irrigator.

Water pick type of a thing. And even when I brush my teeth and then I use my water pick, my oral irrigator, things still come out of my mouth after a thorough tooth brushing. And one of the things I know is that my vascular system, my whole, you know, avoiding atherosclerosis, hardening of the arteries, plaque that calcifies in your veins and arteries comes from your oral microbiome. And so it's very important to get all that crap out of your teeth. And if it's getting more crowded as you age, there's more places and spaces for all that stuff to get stuck in there. So oral hygiene becomes considerably more important as you age. And so the idea of having nice teeth with plenty of evenness and not a lot of places for food to get caught, while also using an oral irrigator, I think is a contributing factor to your health span.

Speaker 1: And I would think that this would have benefit. There's an acupuncture system for the teeth. It's not really acupuncture, but there are charts. I've worked with acupuncturists and there are charts that actually have this meridian point in every tooth. So I would think that that would have benefit to that, let alone gum health.

My mother had to have her teeth yanked, but that was because she was a chronic smoker and it destroyed her gums. That's from my education, that's not from anything they knew about back then. But that was her solution. She wasn't going to stop smoking. Yeah, it's addictive.

It's addictive. As she laid dying from metastasized cancer, she held my hand and she said, if I'd known it was going to kill me, I would have never stopped. And she wasn't kidding.

She would have never stopped because it was a pleasure for her. But also that's because it bumps up serotonin levels, but that's a separate show. Interesting. And just the idea of having healthier gums, because I think that gums are another... It's the only area where we're going to get exposed to our mucosa. Our whole body on the inside is all mucosa, roughly speaking. And so the teeth and the gums are the only place that we get to see, like, what's the health status there? Are they vital? Are they getting blood flow correctly? Is all that cleaning, everything that you're doing, having benefit?

And the idea of using the teeth as a biomarker for observing plaque so that you can correlate that to then the plaque in your arteries. And then I have to talk for a moment. This is not my show. I'm not supposed to be talking.

Speaker 2: I love learning from you. Thank you. Natto. Yeah. Formented soybean. Formented soybean. So we can take it as a capsule for people that are freaked out by what it's like in a sushi bar.

It happens to be something I love. And in Japan, they actually have it as breakfast. They'll have fresh rice, shaved nori, and a big dollop of natto on top.

And for those that don't know it, natto is this sort of... Not sort of. It is a slimy substance produced by fermented soybeans. But it is amazing for your arteries. It's amazing for plaque. It's amazing anti-inflammatory.

It's nothing but good. Natto. And you can make your own, but you want to need to... Bad words inserted here use organic soybeans.

Only. And it's easy to make. It's like easy as making yogurt. And you just blop it on top of whatever you want.

But it's... If you're not used to it, try a little first, but natto kindies. It's phenomenal for plaque.

Well, I wonder if it has a lot of phosphorus in it, because I recently noticed, like maybe about a year ago, I noticed that I was starting to have an acceleration of plaque deposits on my teeth. I pride myself. My dental hygienist literally says, you are my number one client.

Like you give me nothing to do. And I started noticing that there was plaque depositing on my teeth. And I'm like, oh, I got to figure this out, because this is not good. This is... If there's plaque on my teeth, there's plaque in my arteries.

It's a system. There's no difference between my mouth and my arteries. And I talked to my holistic dentist and I said, what do you think it is?

What should I do? And he said, it is highly likely that you're low on phosphorus. The very first thing that I would try is I would take a phosphorus complex.

You have to have the right ratio of calcium and phosphorus, or you get extra plaque. And I said, okay, so I got ossoplex. I think it's just called ossoplex.

It's got like MK7 and calcium and phosphorus. It's from... Medi-genics? No. Ossoplex. I don't remember.

I can look it up if you want me to. I started taking that within 10 days. The plaque receded and was gone. It was literally a phosphorus imbalance.

Just amazing. And I just this morning, I hadn't been taking it for like the last 10 days, because I'd been traveling and I ran out and I didn't take them. And just this morning, I was brushing my teeth and I thought just right in the back, part of my lower teeth, which is where the salivary glands are. So that's where you tend to build plaque up first. I thought, oh, I got to go start taking that ossoplex again.

Speaker 1: There it goes. I'll let you try that. That's a great idea. Very interesting. I know. I had for quite a while after I did the show with one of the shows with Caroline Allen of Beam Minerals.

Oh, yeah. Beam Minerals. I started using the folic as my nighttime rinse, because she had had the history of having gum issues. And when she started getting into minerals and started getting into the humic and folics, she found that by rinsing at night with folic before you go to bed, that within a month, her dentist was like, what are you done? What are you doing?

How did your gums get so happy? So there may be. And because especially... Could have phosphorus in it.

Because they're getting it from peat. Yeah. And I don't mean P-E-E-T.

I mean P-E-A-T. Those kinds of fermented earth products. Yeah, like she legit. Yeah, like she legit. Yeah, I'm a fan of all minerals. Me too. Especially because our foods are so stripped. Yeah. Again, that's a whole separate show.

Speaker 2: I looked it up. It's Zymogen. X-Y-M-O-G-E-N. It's a very good brand of supplements. You probably know it. Yep. And it's called Ossoplex MK7. And it's microcrystalline hydroxyapatite, which is what they put in the good toothpaste. Calcium with vitamin D3. Vitamin K2 MK7 plus phosphorus. So it's really a bone supplement. Yeah. But teeth and bones, you know. Yeah. Same family.

Speaker 1: Let me get to my list of, I only have 7,000 questions. I like them. If you had to give something up, or if there was a, that's not actually the approach. How would you prioritize the top things you do? What a, here it is.

Speaker 2: Like the last things I give up. Yeah, what are the last things you'd give up? Yeah. And I'm presuming that what you're saying is it wouldn't be things I could do with that don't cost me anything. It would be things like, things that cost me something.

That cost money. So like, how would I prioritize if all of a sudden I couldn't have, I didn't have $5,000 to straighten my teeth or what have. Um, last thing I would give up would be my hormone replacement. I take estrogen, progesterone and testosterone. And I'll tell you, if you even were like, all right, you're down to those three, what are you going to give up?

I'd be like, I don't know. I don't, I'm not sure because the estrogen is so heart protective, neuro protective. It keeps your skin nice. It, you know, it, it's just so many things for you. But then the progesterone is the balancer, the mediator of that.

So you really need to take them together. But the testosterone, it makes me the happiest of all. Like would I, would I start to wrinkle up and shrivel up, but still get my muscle and my confidence, which is what I like about testosterone is it gives me confidence. I think I might pick confidence over every single thing. I think I would give up accelerated age. I would give up estrogen for accelerated aging if I still had confidence. Cause I don't want. When you think about how we're receding, what I'm trying to do is I'm trying not to recede.

I'm trying to be the bomb ass babe that, and I'm, I'm, I'm literally still at 63 growing into myself, growing into my strengths. I've never felt more wise. I've never had a deeper sense of awe and love for humanity and our earth. My friends and our country and all of our people and our animals and our plants. You know, like I just, when I, so it, it, it helps me stay strong and physically, emotionally and mentally.

And when I see men especially turning into grannies, little old ladies due to diminished testosterone, I think to myself, you better, you better get that in check before you're so diminished that you're like, Oh, I don't know. It's just, it's, it's okay. It's too much for me. I just can't really, I don't know. My doctor says I don't need it. And you know, it's like, you got to fight for yourself.

Speaker 2: You got to fight. You need to have your own. Right.

Speaker 2: You need it. So it's the strength to keep going, to keep fighting, to keep growing, to keep loving, to keep being strong for yourself and others that for me is what I couldn't give up. So that would be number one. Number two. So, I have a lot of jobs that I have to do. Supplementation. And I mean, oh my god, I am sure that you and I, in our houses, we should do like one of those tours of our cabinetry.

Speaker 2: I've got like revolvingly. Yes. I've got a lot of institutions of multiple tiers with tinctures. And anybody has, like, VEGF, my husband, he gives me, I'm like, I got it all right here. Like, I got everything in house. Like, I got a dispensary here. Yeah.

Speaker 2: So, probably my supplementation and the ability to have my medicine cabinets of natural supplementation would probably be number two. And it costs money. I get that. Yeah. Number three, now we're into something expensive would be my personal trainer because I'm lazy and I'm a workaholic. And I always have more to do than I can get done. And I have an appetite to do things. And so, I'll just work my brains out and I won't go work out unless I have an appointment that's on my calendar. And if I have an appointment on my calendar to go for a walk, I won't do it. I'll ride my bike. Sometimes I'll do it. But if I have an appointment when my trainer is going to cost me money, gets my butt to the gym. It's my coping mechanism. We all have our coping mechanisms and I can afford to do it.

So, I do it. So, I think trainer and then I'll tell you, number three is a really pricey one. I guess it's going to be number four. It's a really pricey one. It's stem cell therapy.

I knew it. I have been doing stem cell therapy. I harvested my own stem cells from the fat on my hip. Adipose tissue stem cells of my own biologics. And I have them cryogenically held at American Cell Technology.

They're in Florida. Kevin Farber, super nice guy. Very good lab. And I go to Dr. Jeff in Vegas and I have been fixing all that damage from COVID. My ACLs and MCLs just tore in half because I had so much soft tissue damage. My skin shriveled up. My hair fell out. I have to tell you that this hair is down. My hair is now down. It's very still fine and thin, but it's down to my shoulders.

I still, when I go out and I do fancy things, I'm speaking from stage or I'm on a big video or something. I'm wearing an integrated hair piece still because I need the volume because I want to be pretty. But the stem cells are regrowing my hair. I have so much hair growth.

I went to my colorist yesterday and she just stood in front of the mirror and she pulled my hair down and she went, my God, Susan Bratton, look at this hair. I had almost nothing. I had almost no bangs, little wisps. It was like, you know, when babies are about 18 months to two years old and they kind of lose the baby hair and then the new hair, the adult hair grows in, but it's very fine and wispy and it's real short and there's almost nothing to it. That was what my hair was like after COVID.

I had hardly any left. The stem cells have made my hair such that I don't have to wear a wig to go out anymore. My skin is literally looking so much more youthful and resilient.

My ACLs and MCLs are growing back. I can feel the stem cells when he does the IVs. I can feel it. The first time I did it, I could feel it hit my heart. It hits your heart and your lungs first because they're the most important organs.

And so your body knows what to do with this regenerative gift that you give it. And my heart went like this. Whoa, it was like this intense experience.

Not painful at all. Just like I felt it. The next time I went, I felt it really hitting my lungs. The next time I went, it hit my kidneys. I could feel it hit my kidneys and my bladder.

Really hit that. And each time it also sprouted me new hair within 90 days. And then my skin repaired.

And then my eyesight got better. I mean, so interesting. The proof of seeing what our own endogenous stem cell therapy can do for us is a really impressive process. It's not an overnight thing. It doesn't fix everything at once. It starts with the most damaged, most important things and works its way through.

But slowly it's gotten better and better. And I recently had Dr. Jeff inject it into my genital structures. I have a little incontinence that I chase, as most women my age do. And he injected it into my clitoral structure, urethral structure, bladder sling, and perineal structure. And it's just all that tissue in my genitals. You know, we atrophy our penis and our vulva atrophies. It retracts, it shrinks, it disintegrates. Just like if we're getting smaller and smaller as we age, that's atrophy. It's shrinkage. And so to combat that, that's what you want to do, your high intensity interval training, keep your vascularization.

Do your workouts and your pink in the face. But you can also use stem cells to regrow the tissue. And so I did that and I was very pleased with how robust and meaty and the incontinence is minimized significantly now. And just really interep- my clitoral structure is meatier.

And so it's bigger. And so my orgasms are more pleasurable and intense. For so many men, they say, I have sensation loss.

I can't feel. I can't quite, I struggle to achieve a climax. For women, they say, you know, I've got vanishing clitoris. I've got vanishing labia.

Everything is shrinking. I can't quite get orgasm. What do I do? And I say, go get a Gaines Wave. Those are shockwave treatments by trained professionals. You can get shockwave anywhere, but trained professionals are who you want. Shockwaving your genitals.

So I like Gaines Wave. I like nitric oxide boosters. I like red light therapy. And you can do PRP exosomes or stem cells. And even mixing exosomes with stem cells can be a really, you can mix PRP exosomes and stem cells. PRP comes out of your own body. You can buy exosomes, which are biologics that don't have anyone else's DNA in them.

You can buy stem cells from umbilical cord blood or you can buy, you can harvest your own stem cells if that's what you have the time, money and interest. I always like to offer things that are like budget. That's nitric oxide boosters and use it or lose it. Red light, things like that. They don't cost much.

There's mid range, which is kind of your Gaines Waves and things like that. And then there's luxury and that's your PRPs, your exosomes, your stem cells and that type of thing.

Speaker 1: And where would you put, I have a question about a product somebody put into chat, but I have to talk to you. Where do you put PEMF in that group of luxury, mid price? I think PEMF can be ridiculously expensive, some of the devices, but not all the devices that are that expensive. And talk about PEMF.

Speaker 2: I like PEMF. I find it very grounding, especially for anyone who has any kind of anxiousness, which frankly, who doesn't these days? I mean, life is stressful. So I love PEMF because I find it very grounding. And the pad that I have is a higher dose pad. It's about $600. You pay for it once and you have it forever.

It folds so you can lie it down in your bed or you can fold it up on your sofa or your office chair or what have you. And it has both warmth. If you live in a warm climate, you wouldn't need that. But if you live in a cool climate, it's very nice to have that warmth and then the PEMF. And the PEMF in something like a higher dose mat, it's like four different frequencies. So it has the Schumann resonance and a couple of other, it has like relaxing frequencies and activating frequencies.

And I really love the grounding and calming effect of PEMF for me personally. There are other devices like Bonn Charges one that's a big one right now. They're more expensive.

They tend to be a thousand to two thousand, three thousand, four thousand. There's the, what's the one that starts with a K? Which it called, I tried it. It's $5,000 and get one for $2,500. I didn't feel the same amount of pleasure from that mat as I did from my cheap little higher dose.

So I think if you're going to do PEMF, it's good to start with something that's just your basic. They're made in China. It's just frequency. It's not that hard to make. They put some crystals in the pad, but at least it gives you a place to start to see if it's something that you find grounding and pleasurable. It's kind of like earthing.

If you don't want to walk outside, you don't have grass to walk out or you don't want to walk out in your bare feet or what have you. It's a very similar concept. It kind of negates all of the EMFs and the, you know, we're in the Wi-Fi's and we're on our phones and we're just like always in these electrical fields.

It kind of helps reset the system. I mean, that's the simple way that I would explain it. You know much more about it. So you should add to what I said.

Speaker 1: I find it really soothing to the nervous system. Me too. It's how I would describe it. Yes. It's very subtle. I have three different devices. I have a pad that you can, but mostly like I put it in a chair. It's not a full body pin. That's what I like. And also I have something called a dog collar, which is a big circle. It's a giant PMF circle. And what it was designed for was injuries or an also to help repair or a heal or like if you had a knee problem or an injured thigh or arm or something like that.

Yeah. And just to freak people out, I would put it around my neck, which always just, you know, too many scenes in movies with people. Bombs around their neck, but it's a, you know, it's a great way to deliver. And it really calms the overthinking.

I tend to be an overthinker and it just is a very soothing. You don't feel it. It doesn't click.

It doesn't make any sounds. I've been on some of the more powerful ones or the devices that I that actually produce so much electrical field. You can actually smell just the tiniest amount of ozone being produced in the field. And I don't care for those as much because I find the sound of those to be not neurologically beneficial. Yeah. I'm sensitive to sound and I don't mean like I'm sensitive.

I just don't like it. So I like the silent ones and I enjoy them very much. We talked before the show about Margot Parker, who's an acupuncturist up in Idaho who introduced me to them. And she had a clinic up in Idaho where she had people come in and do acupuncture on PMF pads and notice a substantial difference in the effects of the acupuncture. I just think it's, it's just so soothing.

I can't come up with a better word than that. It is just so like, you know, I have a hip issue or I have a, you know, I do tend to have a hip issue. And so I'll get up in the morning and slap the small one in my pants and just put it on my back for 20 minutes.

While I'm standing here at the desk. Nice. And it's just really nice. It just helps the muscles unwind. It helps things get a little more calm.

Like it's, like it's quietly telling the muscles, just, just there there. It'll be fine. Just relax a little go follow me, follow my lead. We'll calm everything down. And it does. Yes. Every time.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. And I also finally got the chat up and thank you for the feedback on the osteosteostrong. I'd like to save that and read that in detail later. I don't know how I can copy and paste it from here in my studio. I'll send it to you. Will you send it to me? That's good. Thank you so much for that feedback. I really appreciate that.

Speaker 2: And I was also interested down there in that, in that I was going to ask you that she was mentioning the AlgaeCal.

Speaker 1: Yeah, AlgaeCal. Uh-huh. Yeah, I don't know a lot about that.

Speaker 1: I'm a fan of all things algae. Me too. So I'll be, we'll have more conversation.

Speaker 2: It sounds like it's a calcium. I think it was the calcium. I think AlgaeCal was created by the guy who founded Bastyr University. Joe, he and his wife, Joe, he's lovely. Bastyr University is the naturopathic medical institute. He wrote a wonderful book. I forget it, but yeah. We'll have this. Basically calcium. Bone density. Bone density.

Speaker 1: Bone-related supplements. I'm all things, and I have a friend who's working in the field of algae, but he's doing it for crop growth to improve crop health. He grows his own algae up in Shasta.

Nice. And harvests it and then dries the hydrants and use it for farmers to improve their crop. And I think it has a lot, I think it has the same benefit to us in that it's micronutrients and minerals. Yeah. I'm a big fan of all things minerals because I think so much of our food, unless it's, unless we eat organic or grow our own.

Is stripped of so much because of all those things that we don't want to talk about. Yeah. And can you go a little long? Yeah. Okay.

Well, we should have made a snack. I want to talk about an unusual category. I want to talk about the skin. Yeah. And I want to talk about skin, not so much protection.

Well, I'll open it this way. Back when I was, I had done a bunch of interviews with Stephanie Seneff who wrote the book toxic legacy about glyphosate and wonk makes us look like we're standing still kind of wonk. I mean, just wow, is she a wonk. And I remember when she started talking about glyphosate and then once she wrote the book, she was really on fire. And one of the things that she talked about with glyphosate, and it was happening in Brazil more so than here yet.

Is it in Brazil, they use a high amount of ethanol in their fuel, which is great. The tricky part is that it's probably produced from GMO corn. The GMO product, that means it how it tolerates glyphosate and they use it as a desiccant right before they harvest the crop, because it causes the foliage to die so that when you go to harvest it, it's easier to harvest. So when they take that product. And they make ethanol out of it. That means that now we have a fuel delivery system that's fueling glyphosate into the air. Because it's not stripped out of the process of making ethanol.

There's no reason for it to be stripped out. And so now we have ethanol here, which we've had for quite a while. We just don't ever talk about it. And so it just goes to the, I don't know where I was going with that.

I have a separate thing about Stephanie. But it's just the idea that we have this, this is in my total toxic load. I mean, I know winemakers in the Napa Valley who have been growing biodynamic organic wine for 40 years. And I've been saying that for 30. So it's probably longer than that since the 70s. Man. And I like the 70s.

I did too. The 70s were great. They discovered a few years ago that they're perfectly grown stunning grapes. Their wine had glyphosate in it. And it was coming from the water table and the fact that they live in a part of the country in Napa Valley where there's lots of traffic. So it could be coming from that.

But now they're trying to figure out how to remove glyphosate from their systems. And it's, it's pervasive. It's everywhere. It's in everything. It's in school lunch programs.

That was the thing that Stephanie said. No, Zen Honeycutt, the founder of Moms Across America did a thing with her volunteers nationwide and had them go out and get school lunches from schools and have them tested for to send them to a lab and have it tested. And 90% of them had trace of glyphosate in school lunches. And I have a whole bunch of bad words about that. That just sends me into like, really, we're feeding the kids that were trying to get educated and be healthy and be vital.

Glyphosate is children. Are you blanking, kidding me? So there's that. But that's not why I brought up Stephanie. Stephanie is a big fan of the sun, particularly as a source of vitamin D, which we all need. Bone density, health, immune system support, I mean, just everything. And she feels that the best way to have skin protection from getting a sunburn is to have a tan. Not smear some weird blend of chemicals that are then going into your diaphoretic sweaty pores. Like this is another like, really? Really? Come on.

Could we think about this a little more? So I'm wondering your thoughts on goo that you put on your skin. Because I'd imagine that you also have a wide selection just right next to the room filled with supplementation. There's probably a wall filled with groovy things to put on the skin to make it more supple and soft and healthy and happy. What are your thoughts on skin protection? Yeah.

Speaker 2: I know it's a real double-edged sword. I love the sun. And if you look at our elders that aren't expected to have this youthful perspective of beauty, they're wrinkled. They're wrinkled from the sun. They're brown and they're wrinkled.

That's what we look like when we go out in the sun. So my approach has been to go out in the sun and then do things that get rid of the brown spots that age my skin. I do put sunblock on my face. I try to have as I try to use some of the least egregious products I can find. I also try to be careful with all of my makeup and skincare.

I like a brand called Young Goose for skincare and another brand called Epi-Onts, E-P-I-O-N-C-E. And Epi-Onts is very interesting because what he says, I think his name is Greg, the CEO and kind of the doctor research-ery guy that's figured out this piece, which is your wrinkles, a lot of it comes from a loss of the skin barrier. You know, we think, okay, I need to take collagen and silica and hyaluronic acid and get my essential fatty acids. And these things are very important for my skin. Yeah, and you need estrogen because you've got to have the cellular structures to hold in the collagen and the hyaluronic acid.

You need silica, you need vitamin C and you need zinc and copper in the right balance. I mean, it's so hard to figure all these things out. I just do the best I can do. I just try to get that stuff in me when I can.

I do the best I can do. But the latest thinking as well is our barriers are gone. And when our barriers are gone, we have much more damage. And Epi-Onts business is to regenerate the skin barriers so that we have less wrinkling, less damage, etc.

So that's an interesting new area. And I was at the A4M longevity conference in December and I sat in on this Greg, I forgot his last name from Epianthi. He did a presentation talking about the skin barrier and why that is such an important and under considered part of anti-aging and skincare.

And remember, of course, that whether you're doing it for beauty or health, there are two sides of that same coin as well in that the younger that you look, generally the healthier that you are, the better your skin tone. Our skin being our largest organ, although I think now they're saying that the internal gut system is actually an even larger organ. If you spread it out, then our skin is back to your mucosa.

That managing the skin barriers keeps you healthier. And so I walked up to him and I said, you know, I recently did a lasering. I've had two facelifts. I had one in my early fifties and I had one. It wasn't a full facelift. It was a smaller facelift in my early sixties.

And my plastic surgeon said, come back every two years and just let me do a light lasering on everything. It'll keep the skin in good shape. It'll keep it tight. It'll get rid of those age spots. It'll just be a good way to preserve the stitching up that I've done. So I went in and I had the lasering done in on November 30th and on December 12th. I was at a 4M, you know, 12 days later after major surgery. I was at a conference and I said to him, okay, I just had lasering done.

What do I need to do? And he said, skin barrier protection, 100%. You've just lasered off all of that protection. He said, the lasers aren't going to hurt you, but you have to cover the barrier.

You have to put a barrier up. And so he said, get the body lotion we make. It's perfect for that. I started using that body lotion and my skin looks so much better, softer, less wrinkled. It is amazing what the topical barrier can do to keep the moisture in your skin.

So I just kind of balance it. I use some suns if I'm going to be out in the sun for a long time, like I'm going along bike ride in the sun, I'm wearing long sleeves, I'm putting block on, but I'll run down to the beach and jump in the ocean and play in the waves. And I don't put sunscreen on for that.

I get my whole body in there. I do the best I can do. We're all doing the best we can do. I'm going to age, but I'm going to do what I cannot to age, both for health and beauty. So those are some of my latest thoughts about how I personally manage it.

Speaker 1: I think part of the contribution to how our skin reacts to the sun is back to the toxic load, total toxic load. Now, admittedly, my grandmother was a wrinkly thing when she died in 106. But for God's sake, she was 106. Fine. Come on, be wrinkly.

Right. And I think that there are people that, you know, if you have a decent microbiome and a good mineral content and need a good, clean diet, I think your skin is less inclined to be irritated by sun rays. I think part of what happens to us, and also we have the thinning of the ozone layer.

That's a whole separate show. And so how much sun is hitting our skin is probably different than what was hitting my grandma's skin in the 70s. And so I think that is a tipping point of firing off toxins that are just below the tissue.

So if we can keep the tissues healthy and happy, the idea of having, as you talk about, you know, having a product that you put on your skin that is actually nutrient to the skin, which 90% of the, 98% of the products don't think that way. They're just trying to slather some goo on. Yeah. And, you know, it's petroleum based more than likely. Right.

Speaker 2: Just, you know, one of the things that I'm using right now, the Young Goose Daily Skincare product has spermadine in it. And spermadine is a very interesting thing. It was originally a polyamine identified in semen. That's why it's called spermadine. And there's spermadine, spermine, and putrosine. Putrosine is what makes sperm give it that smell and kind of funky smell. And those three things are polyamines that support nine of the 12 hallmarks of longevity. So if you're looking for anti-aging, spermadine is a very, very good supplement to take. And now they're putting it in skincare.

So that's just an interesting thing. There are two kinds of spermadine. You can get spermadine from wheat germ, which has gluten in it. But you can also get spermadine from Okinawan, Chlorella. Here we are back to our sea vegetables.

Back to our algae. Yeah. And that's the kind that I prefer to use. I supplement with Oxford Health Span Primadine. It's called instead of spermadine, they call it primadine because it's, they have a gluten-free version and it has all of those in it. There's a lot of synthetic spermadine on the market. And I always try to find food derived supplementation whenever possible. So I love the Okinawan, Chlorella derived spermadine for reversing those aging issues. And what's interesting is that Leslie Kenny, the CEO of Oxford Health Span, she'd be a great person to have on your show.

She's so interesting. So would Dr. Lindsay Devaki-Berkson, who is the first person I heard, talk about the benefits of semen, which is another reason why having a good sex ban, if you're with a male-bodied partner, his semen is very good for you as a partner because it has spermadine, spermine, putrosine, testosterone, luteinizing hormone, which even though you may not menstruate anymore, you still have cycles. You're still a moon cycle person. Men are more of a sun cycle every day. And it also has serotonin. It has zinc for cognitive function. It has so many good things in it.

We're very symbiotic. And Leslie Kenny talked to me about the fact that the ancient Taoists, the reason they did semen retention, was because they were holding the spermadine, spermine and putrosine. They didn't know that's what it was. That's what was making them live longer. The Taoist kings, these masters, they had concubines.

They just didn't release. And so they didn't care about their concubines' health. They only cared about their own health and their own longevity. That's a very interesting thing to think about that they knew thousands of years ago that semen retention would keep them younger. They weren't releasing their chi. We know about all of those kinds of things. But a big part of it was these polyamines. So you can now supplement with them.

Speaker 1: That's amazing. We're jumping here because I wanted to talk with you also about... You wrote this great post on longevity wins. Thank God. Yes, there is that. There's always that, like, does anybody like this really? I can't tell.

Speaker 2: People seem to be liking what I'm writing. I'm very pleased.

Speaker 2: I'm glad I moved into this. I'm getting a lot of people subscribing. I'm shocked.

Speaker 2: Sometimes you do things and they're effortless and you're like, Oh, I'll take that.

Speaker 2: Yeah. So you wrote this great column, I call them columns, because that's just how I think, about the cringe post where you talk about the cringe of medical thinking. Can you talk about that? Your reaction was so... It wasn't like you were cursing. It was just you were just talking about, I talked to physicians about it and they didn't know what they were talking about. They didn't know anything. It was just your cringe.

It was such a great observation of, well, how are you and I feel and how many of the people on the listening to the shows feel. It's like you go to your doctor and ask and they're like, I don't know. Aren't you supposed to know? Isn't that the doctor's job to know?

Speaker 2: I don't know. I think doctors are in such a difficult position right now. What I think is interesting is that Canada is currently trying to suck all our doctors out of our systems, because they need doctors. Doctors, the privatization of our health system has ruined it and made it, the insurance and all of that stuff has ruined doctors.

They can't heal anymore. They don't have time to do any of that stuff. They have really difficult jobs. They can only know so much. They need to take a rest too.

I understand that they can't know everything. I was at a longevity conference and I was a speaker there and I was sitting in on a session and it was about exercise. They were really mostly focused on things, strength, training and hitting things like that, but free weights and stuff like that. As you age, free weights, if you're not working with someone who really understands all of the micro movements of free weights and things, you can start to hurt yourself with those things. Because you want to lift heavy. You don't want to go in and do five pound blah, blah, blah.

You want to, every time you go in, you want to beat your last best score as much as you can. You want to quantify that and keep growing and bulking up. You're trying to bulk up so that you don't shrivel up. You're fighting against the atrophy.

That's one of the things you're doing with that strength training. There is a place, again, down in San Diego in Encinitas where I have a little tiny, I have two homes, but they are two little tiny modest cottages. Because I like to live in the mountains and I like to live at the beach and I like to go back and forth. I like variety. Variety is one of my top life values.

I enjoy variety. It's called Smart Fit Method. At Smart Fit Method, they have VASPR and they have carol bikes and they have something called ARX.

These are three pieces of equipment. If any of you have had experience with that, I'd love to see that in the chat as well. The VASPR stands for Vascular Performance. It's kind of like an elliptical bike trainer. You sit on a cold pad. You're back against a cold seat. It wraps a cold, it's kind of like your PEMF collar. It wraps a cold collar around your neck. The foot pedals are cold.

You keep your shoes off. You do these hit bursts of effort. It's computer generated.

It's AI driven and it knows your last best numbers. You're trying to push real hard and then you get a real slow rest. Then you push real hard and you get a real slow rest. What that does is it releases growth factor. It releases lower snide time cortisol. It releases testosterone and it helps you grow muscle. It bulks you up, but it doesn't bulk you up the way a strength training resistance workout works. When you're doing strength training, a lot of times you're doing muscle isolation. You're doing the bicep or you're doing a chest pressure, working on your various parts of your packs or your shoulders or whatever it might be. But in VASPR, it's a whole body strength training workout. This is another thing that's on my list of what I wouldn't give up unless I absolutely had to.

The pry it out of my cold dead hands category. What I love about VASPR is that you sleep so well and you wake up, but what it does is it makes your whole body strong. You get this nicer shape.

My body has a prettier shape at 63. When I walk around my house naked and I do because my husband likes to see my naked body, I make sure I do that for him. I'll come in and ask him something while I'm getting ready and dressed in the morning.

I'll think of something and I will go out where he's working and I will say, I will ask my question. Sometimes I will sit and have a conversation with him naked because he just likes to look at me. That's pretty to him. It gives him pleasure and joy.

I'll go out and I'll sit on his lap while I'm naked. He likes to feel my body and my body looks better than it's looked even in my 20s. I would say if you held up a picture of me in my 20s and my 60s, the shape of my physiology is prettier, rounded, stronger, more muscular than it was even in my 20s. I was willowy in my 20s. I was lucky. I was a tall woman. I was thin back then. I weighed 120 or 30 or something. Now I weigh 160 but it's mostly muscle, which is great. I don't mind a little fat on it either. I like a little fat. I like a little buffer.

No problem for me. I don't sweat plus or minuses. It doesn't phase me because I'm strong and I feel solid in my body. The vascular makes everything round and pretty. The muscles look nice. You don't look like one of those super ripped lean people who... Some people like that look and they want that jacked look. I like strong with a little padding and some boobs on top.

That's just what makes me happy. The vasper really makes your body look nice. The ARX, adaptive resistance exercise or something like that.

I probably didn't get it right. The ARX has these readouts. It's all these different exercises where you're doing eccentric and concentric movements. You're going to push out as hard as you can and then you're going to resist it coming back at you as much as you can. You're going to resist. You're going to resist.

Speaker 2: You're holding it. Holding it. Holding it. Holding it. Holding it. Holding it. Holding it. Holding it. Holding it. Holding it. When you hold it in, that makes you so strong.

You see the readout and you can have it programmed. Not for your last workout, but your best workout you ever did. You can see how strong you really are when you've gotten all of this sleep and you're doing really well and you haven't had whatever, Immuroids or gotten your shingle shot or whatever is going on, He had a flu or whatever is going on with you when you are solid. and you can focus on trying to constantly beat your best scores. And that makes you go, you just get this nice, big, muscular body. And it's so good. And so I asked this panel,

Speaker 2: what do you think about these next generation AI driven technologies like VASPR, ARX, Carol bike, which is a high intensity interval training, pedaling bike. What do you think about those things? And not a single professional famous trainer or doctor on that panel said a good thing about them. They were like, oh, I don't recommend those things for people. They're too expensive. I just don't think people should have to do that kind of stuff.

They can just lift weights. And I thought, well, it's $330 a month, which in the grand scheme of things for your health and all the benefits of that, it's like one of the very last things I'd give up. Because, and I always like to say the prices of things, because you got to make trade-offs here and there. I understand this, but each one of those, you get two ARX and a VASPR or two VASPRs and an ARX a week, unlimited Carol bikes, the biocharger machine of $78,000 PEMF bed for your membership. You can go in every single week and do all that stuff for $300 a month. You don't even need to have a trainer for that.

You can just do those things, 20 minutes, 30 minutes, in and out, super efficient. It's the way of the future. I absolutely love those. And so when they were saying, well, I don't think those are, I mean, those are just fancy. I thought, you don't know what you're talking about. You've never even been on one. You haven't done any research. And why don't you let your customers decide how they want to spend their money? You don't need to manage their pocketbook for them.

This could be the number one thing that rehabilitates them and gets them back in their body and strong again. And you're poo-pooing it because you don't know about it. Like, stop. So that is what you're alluding to, is that?

Speaker 1: Yes, that was great. That was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. Good. Because that was what I felt about. I had no idea what the area was you were talking about, but I've had that experience so many times when, let's say, back in the day when I used to do a whole life expos, traveled around for five years doing a whole life expos, and talking to people.

And you can always tell when the docs who would come in looking slightly disguised, but really, is it possible if you're that kind of doctor and want to challenge you about everything? And it was because they didn't know. It wasn't because they wanted to learn. Fear from watching knowledge. They were just, like, afraid of ozone for all the decades when everybody was afraid of ozone.

I was like, oh, my God, the thing, and it's terrible. And really, do you know anything about it? No, not really. Okay. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for sharing ever so much.

Yeah, that was great. Now, we're moving toward the close. It could happen. We could go all day. We could make this an all-day seminar.

I have so many areas. But I want to ask you about this is another column where you talk about the 3M's of modern longevity. Yeah. And would you talk about that? And I love this line.

I wrote this down specifically. You're 37 trillion cell body bag. Yeah. That's great. That'd be a great baseball cap if you could fit on a baseball cap. But yeah, talk about the 3M's of modern longevity.

Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's mitochondria, muscle, and what was the third one?

Speaker 3: Mitochondria, muscle, and mindset.

Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, mindset. Yeah, that's a Peter Atea thing. And I thought it was really brilliant. He came up with that and I thought, oh, that's good. Yeah, the 37 trillion cell body bag. That's your mitochondria. Every cell has multiple mitochondria in it.

That's your batteries. And that's a lot of what Dave writes about. Dave Asprey, he writes a lot about... I don't agree with everything Dave says, but he is brilliant. And he has written some incredible things. And it's interesting that his latest book that's coming out is... What is it called? It's heavily meditated.

Great. Which is the mindset piece. And now I practice a specific kind of meditation. I practice orgasmic meditation.

That's a very unusual meditative practice, but wonderful. And I can tell you a little bit about that. But I've been talking a lot about muscle.

And we've really beat that one. But the mitochondrial piece of it is where your red light comes in, where your body building comes in, how to keep those batteries charged up. They love light. They love blood flow.

They love strength. This is where autophagy comes in. Autophagy is the spring cleaning of your cells, getting rid of the senescent cells, the zombie cells, the broken cells, having your body turn those over. So whether you're doing intermittent fasting or fasting memetics, which are things like rapamycin, serolimus, disatinib. These are pharmaceuticals that help with autophagy. Or you're doing the prolon fasting mimicking diet, which is the fasting system that I like to use because it's just easier for me to follow a food in a box type of thing that tricks my body into letting go of all the dead and broken cells. I try to do that quarterly. So getting rid of the broken stuff so that the fresh stuff can have all the resources, keeping all those batteries powered.

So they make the ATP, which is what is your energy source. For me, when I sat down to write longevity wins, I thought to myself, wow, and you can tell by all the crazy different things I try and do and all that stuff. I'm doing a lot of stuff. Not doing it all, all the time except working out, getting good sleep, eating well.

My supplements constantly change. I sometimes do a sauna. I sometimes do a cryotherapy. I was just doing a cold plunge in a 30 degree river next to 107 degree natural hot springs and steamboat springs. And I went in three or four times back and forth. I do what I can do when I can do it.

This is what we do. But the mitochondria keeping your ATP, when I was thinking about longevity wins, what I was thinking about was, what's the bottom line here? What am I really trying to do? What am I really trying to help people with?

What's the most important thing? What is this newsletter about? And the bottom line is that it's about energy. It's about having enough energy, system resources to have the pleasure, the energy, the love, the life to have the energy to have the life that you want to do, the things that you want to do as you age, not diminishing and shrinking and losing resources, but maintaining and even growing them, fighting against the loss of system resources. That's really the bottom line is, if the things that I'm writing about give you more energy and whether that's the skincare that makes you feel better and look better so that you act younger. If you act the age you look and you look younger, you're going to act younger. You're going to be younger.

You're going to have more resources that all feeds into the same thing. So that, I think the meditation, the getting yourself calm, whether that's through relaxing on a PEMF mat, that's mindfulness right there. You took a minute for yourself. You sat down. You rested.

You just took a load off. That's mindfulness. Mindfulness is allowing your heart to feel love instead of hate and fear. That's mindfulness. That's a mindfulness practice. That's managing your systems, your nervous systems. That's what mindfulness does.

It gives you resources to manage being alive in the world today. So it's not difficult, but it is really, I think, Peter nailed it when he thought about it as the 3M, the muscle, the mitochondria, and the mindset.

Speaker 3: I thought we were going to stop, but I have to ask one more question because it fits so perfectly right here. This is another column. That was a perfect setup to this. The column was 10 ways to trick yourself to add five healthy years to your life. That's what I just said. It's really making fun.

Speaker 4: It's really perspective. I think I hang out with a lot of young people. My best friends are in their 40s. They could be my children, but they're my friends. They're my peers. It was funny because I was toying with the idea that they both live in my town, my best friends, my best girlfriends. I live in my town. My neighbor is one of my other best friends.

My other best friend fled to Costa Rica during the pandemic, but she's coming back and she's moving in to San Diego to Encinitas because we like to be close. She's 50. I got 40 and 50-year-olds that are my best friends. That's who I act with, my peer group. I really, really love having young people in my life.

My daughter's 27, her boyfriend, all her friends. I don't look at them as children. I look at them as my equals. I support them. I love them.

I love having them around in my life. I think the more that you don't think about yourself as, oh, I'm 63. I only have 40 more years. You think to yourself, oh, I'm only 63. I've got 40 more years.

What am I going to do with 40 more years? This is what David Donnelly of Cultured It, his latest movie, is called Forever Young. I'd love for you to interview him when the movie debuts. He's a documentary filmmaker and he's doing a documentary on my work and my life next.

And he met me because I was talking about Sexpan on Forever Young, that documentary. And that documentary is about now that we can live so much longer, the question becomes, what do we do with the rest of our lives? When we don't think about ourselves as being 60, we're washed up, we're old, we're decrepit, we're over, we're not a value anymore. What if it's, we're the people with the most energy, the most wisdom, the most love on the planet right now. We're the cohort.

We were in the 70s. We've been activists. We've marched against all of the oppression. We've stood for all people and love and peace.

And we are the people who can guide the next generation to continue to reclaim that from the old school that wants to hold on to and keep us oppressed. So we've got a lot of work to do. We need to keep ourselves in good shape. There is work to be done. We don't have to do all the heavy lifting, but we've got the wisdom. So what are we going to do with the next 40 years of our lives or wherever you are, whatever age you are? That's what's going to keep us young. And it's true.

Speaker 2: I tend to have people that my closest friends are all older, meaning in their 70s and 80s.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a lot of friends in their 70s and 80s too.

Speaker 3: However, one of them is 83. And I know right now he's hiking up the mountains of Albuquerque because that's what he likes to do. And he's a thought leader, has been a thought leader for years. He had a company called Elixir for many years selling colloidal silver generators and air quotes, alternative devices. Yeah. But, you know, he started doing nasal breathing when he was 79.

He put water in his mouth and trained himself to be able to hold that water in his mouth while hiking uphill. Great. So he's that kind of thinker. And if we were to add him into this conversation, he'd fit right in.

And you wouldn't know he was 82. There's no sense of that. And so I have a lot of those kind of people around me who we talk on a regular basis. We're compatriots. We've known each other for decades. And there is kibitzing and there is the usual stuff that occurs. But it's still that kind of camaraderie of on the same mission. Live well, live long and prosper. There you go. I forget who that is. Star Trek. Thank you.

Speaker 4: It is Star Trek. Star Trek. It is Star Trek. He is Leonard Nimoy. Yeah, it probably was Leonard. Yeah, live long and prosper. That's right with the fingers. Yeah, live long and prosper. Yeah, I could never could do that. Can you do that?

Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4: Oh, good for you. Both hands. Boys train themselves in the 70s to do that.

Speaker 3: I don't know where, yeah, probably, I don't know. I'm pretty ambidextrous. We're going to stop because we could go on easily for another hour. That was really very fun, as I know it would be, and jam packed with all sort of information. I'll put all the links and ideas and things that I can recall in the show notes for people to refer to. And where would you like people to find out further listeners? Where would you like the people to find out more about your work and your site and your longevity wins?

Speaker 4: Oh, I think if you just go to longevitywins.com, it takes you to my newsletter. So that's what we mostly have been talking about today. So if that intrigued you, you can find it's on Substack, longevitywins on Substack. And I'm at susanbratton.com. If you're interested in the sexuality piece of things, you can go to susanbratton.com and sign up for my newsletter there as well.

Speaker 3: And let's not forget the20store.com because those are great products. Yeah. Of course. All right, everybody, that was great. Everybody else have a great rest of the weekend.

Speaker 4: Thanks everybody for hanging in so long. Really appreciate it. Have a wonderful day today. And I'm here if there's anything I said that you wanted to know more about your, if you get on my newsletter and you reply to anything, I get it personally and I'm happy to answer. So feel free to fire away.

Speaker 3: And she really does. I do. She actually does. I've emailed her and it's like, boom, she's right there. It's amazing. All right, that was stupendous Susan.

Speaker 1: Thank you so much.